Does the bonus pool below include the 5% over the slot that we're allowed to go before the penalties get serious?
No. The $3,871,000 is the total of the slots for rounds 1-10. The number to the right (now $0) is how much of that has been spent. Anyone from rounds 11-40 AND any NDFAs who sign for over $100,000 also count against the $3,871,000 total allowed (but I don't think you'll see the Rays go over $100k for any of those).
You can never have enough good pitching.Although it's considered an average draft at best,there seems to be several good H.S. arms we can choose from early.
YAY- finally a high pick from somewhere other than Washington or Oregon!!!
We always hear the Rays don't need a 3B since they have Longoria at MLB, so they won't waste a pick on one. But since Longoria was drafted in 2006 the Rays have picked the following players "as 3B" in the first 10 rounds alone:2007 - Reid Fronk, 7th round2007 - Greg Sexton, 10th2011 - Tyler Goeddel, 1 supp2011 - Riccio Torrez, 4th2011 - J.D. Davis, 5th didn't sign2012 - Richie Shaffer, 1stThis doesn't include guys who were picked as other positions but can and do play 3B like Matt Hall, Anthony Scelfo, (Derek Dietrich in the future, 2010 2nd), and later round guys.
I have to be excited about the future of this team. I know it is no guarantee that all of these guys work out, but i think we have done a pretty good job lately making up for the overall lack of hitting in the organization. We have pitching coming out of our ears, and granted, you can never have too much pitching, but i feel good about a future lineup of:LF Jennings2B BrettRF Vettleson1B SchafferDH Sale3B DeitrichCF BeckhamSS LeeC (Black Hole)And that is leaving Mahtook out of the lineup. I guess he is insurance for Beckham. Nice looking team!
Local article on Gannon:http://www.nctimes.com/high-school/cathedral-catholic/prep-baseball-draft-stock-of-sfc-s-gannon-could-be/article_a59bfb9f-8b4a-553a-95d0-3b2599f722a4.htmlGannon has signed a letter of intent to play at San Diego State, but previously said he'd like to sign a pro contract.So is the eighth or ninth round good enough to lure him away from San Diego State? Did Saturday's dominant performance push him into the the third to fifth round?"The draft is so unpredictable," Gannon said after Saturday's game. "I really don't know what I'm going to do. There are so many highs and lows involved."Honestly, I'm in a win-win situation. If I'm drafted high enough, and the offer is fair, I could sign. If it's not, I'll play for a great college program.---First line sounds promising
Una escalada increible, una tabla inigualable
Oy, can we just call up Shaffer for 3B tonight? I mean, we might need to sign him first but that shouldn't be that hard!
Almost all college guys from 16-40. I assume that means they will sign.
Hurray for the new draft picks~loads of college picks~There's hope for the Hudson Valley! Bring on the playoffs. lol
Si es una cuestion impresionante lo que plantea esta tabla!
That's funny the Rays drafted Dylan Floro in 2009 in the 20th round he turns us down to go to college and we draft him again this year in the 13th round. I've noticed that when the Rays target a player and they don't get them they stay interested and eventually trade for them. For example, Luke Scott, Jason Hammel and Cesar Ramos all didn't sign after the Rays drafted them. However, the Rays acquired all these guys via trade eventually down the road.
What are you talking about? We drafted and sign Hammel, then traded him.
well considering 22 of 25 players from last years team are no longer around( with a vast majority released) There is plenty of room on the roster. The question is what do they do until July 13th?????
Probably lose games with last year's Princeton's bench team. lol
Great another year of disappointment for Hudson Valley. I wonder how long the ownership group is going to stay with the Rays Organization as it seems that HUdson Valley is consistantly overlooked when talent comes in the system. I see a change in affiliation in the Renegades future. They fill the stadium on most days the playoff money would be a boost to the owners.
As we watched our current lineup forget how to hit for yet another night, I would like to think of our 2014 lineup.LF Desmond JenningsSS Hak Ju LeeCF Mikie Mahtook3B Evan LongoriaDH Josh SaleRF Drew Vettleson1B Richie Schaffer2B Ryan BrettC Still a black hole but hey a bunch of new projects drafted!Considering that's 2014, you would still have guys like Joyce and Zobrist around, although I can see Zo not being here for too long if he can't find his swing, it's June already, buddy. There is also Tim Beckham (hopefully) and the scary part, the 2nd catcher when we don't even have a 1st.Let me feel better1. David Price2. James Shields3. Matt Moore4. Jeremy Hellickson5. Taylor GuerreriCobb, Archer, and about 20 others would be in the mix if Guerreri is a bust and/or Shields is gone.
I consider Brett, Sale, and Vettleson a real longshot to make the 2015 club. If Sale continues to mash for power, he could have a shot given the shortcomings of the current lineup and the exits of guys like Pena/Scott by then (If not sooner). That would also have to be dependent upon the Rays belief that he could hit well enough to be a DH. But Brett and Vettleson will be expected to play the field, and Brett still needs to continue to work at 2B. Vettleson looks great in RF with his professionals-leading outfield assists this year. But, he's also got to prove the bat is legit. I'm a huge fan of the guys, and I think they are a huge part of the Rays future, but they will need time and 2014 seems a bit early for them.I think 2015 is more likely. Especially with the Rays who like to take their time with their HS talents.
My apologies, in that first line I meant to say the 2014 club ****
RHP-Gannon,RHP-Carrol,and LHP-Kirsh are 3 of my favorites to follow,knowing how the Rays develop young pitchers.Hopefully all 3 will sign with us!
Carroll might end up throwing upper 90s by the time it is all said and done. He's got a great frame, horrible mechanics, and is already generating mid 90s stuff on occasion despite mechanics that more than likely are hindering consistent velocity. He could end up being a big time flame thrower.
Added some info on 28th rounder Dayne Quist. Click on his name or go to the post on rounds 21-30.
Dietrich will either be at 2b or 3b by 2014 or 2015
22nd Argo announced he's signed on twitter.
7th Gantt signed per @Jonathan_Gantt, no relation.
23rd Redman has signed per Texas Tech SID.
8th Maile and 30th Williams, both from U. of Kentucky, have signed per http://www.lex18.com/news/update-on-the-bat-cats-and-mlb-draft
Rays confirm 7th Gantt, 30th Williams, and 10th Bierman have signed and will all report to Hudson Valley. HV games begin in a week & a half.
19th - Beltran signed per twitpic by @RaysDigest.
Holy Moley. Maybe a competative team in Hudson Valley. Yay.
The Rays confirmed 8 more signings: C Luke Maile from Univ. of Kentucky (8th round); LHP Kevin Brandt from East Carolina Univ. (18th round); 1B Miguel Beltran from Oklahoma City Univ. (19th round); OF Willie Argo from Univ. of Illinois (22nd round); 2B Reid Redman from from Texas Tech (23rd round); SS Ben Kline from Enbry-Riddle Univ. (32nd round); RHP Ryan Garton from Florida Atlantic Univ. (34th round) and RHP Rob Finneran from Bentley Univ. (37th round).
You need to check the rosters for the short season teams, they're wrong. The guys from extended that are going to HV know already.
That's a good point. For people who don't know I've just been shoving all the extra players who haven't made a roster yet onto one of the 3 US short-season teams - Hudson Valley, Princeton, GCL Rays - where ever there was a spot. So for right now those rosters are not correct.We will have the real rosters for those 3 teams this week. Not sure for HV but I know for Princeton the players drive out of Port Charlotte on Thursday to WV. Once they arrive and settle in they start practices on Saturday and have "Meet the Team" and "Picnic with the Kids" events and so forth. Same as every other year. I imagine the HV schedule is similar. And of course guys on the GCL don't have to go anywhere.So for now those rosters are not correct. Some of the players may end up at the team they are listed, but don't count on any particular player being as listed on the depth chart for those 3 teams. Can't wait to see the overall rosters. I just hope HV fans are happy this year, it's been a while. :) Princeton fans never complain, and GCL has 3 fans.
I'm not sure if I interpreted this correctly, but why should Princeton complain? (Just look at 2012 Bowling Green's roster)Excited for HV's season to start-love seeing all these college picks.
35th rounder, Kris Carlson has signed and is already in camp waiting for the short season's to start. The earlier signing date is an awesome rule and I hope Schafer signs before Princenton/Hudson Valley start. Of course he could and should go right to Bowling Green when he signs
Why Bowling Green? Hudson Valley seems like the better choice. Then if he does well, promote him.
25/782 LHP Jordan Harrison out of U. of Louisiana Lafayette has signed per http://www.sportsnola.com/sports/local-sports-news/ull-news/585552-baseball-harrison-signs-with-rays-on-monday.htmlA name was added to the list of Ragin' Cajuns baseball alums in professional baseball on Monday, as junior left-hander Jordan Harrison agreed to terms with the Tampa Bay Rays.Harrison will forego his senior collegiate season at the University of Louisiana as he signed a professional baseball contract with the Rays organization, which recently drafted him in the 25th round of the 2012 Major League Baseball First-Year Player Draft....Over the course of the 2012 season, he logged 50 innings and limited opponents to 43 hits and a .235 average. At season's end, Harrison finished with a 3-3 record and 3.42 ERA....Contract details were not immediately disclosed. Harrison, who was pitching for the Victoria Generals of the Texas Collegiate League in the summer baseball ranks, has already reported to Port Charlotte, Fla., home of the Gulf Coast League Rays.Harrison underwent physical examinations on Monday and was cleared to begin practicing with the GCL Rays on Tuesday. The GCL Rays regular season schedule gets underway on Monday, June 18 at the GCL Red Sox....Harrison joins former Ragin' Cajuns lefty T.J. Geith in the Tampa Bay Rays' farm system. Geith, drafted and signed by the Rays in 2011, is presently a member of the Rays' Class A Advanced Affiliate Charlotte Stone Crabs of the Florida State League, also based in Port Charlotte, Fla.
The Rays have confirmed 10 more signings, so 21 total now. The most recently signed are RHP Dylan Floro from Cal State-Fullerton (13th round), RHP William Gabay from Herkimer County CC (15th), 2B Thomas Coyle from Univ. of North Carolina (16th), RHP Randy Davis from Cal State-Sacramento (20th), RHP Jonathan Weaver from Central Michigan Univ. (21st), LHP Jordan Harrison from Univ. of Louisiana-Lafayette (25th), LHP Dayne Quist from UC-Davis (28th), RHP Kris Carlson from Colorado Mesa Univ. (35th), C Geoffrey Rowan from Northwestern Univ. (39th) and RHP Nicholas Sawyer from Howard College (40th).
Those 10 less picks might just get the Rays to sign every pick. That would be different and pretty darn cool. First, please sign Shaffer, guys
First high school pick to sign:Jim Callis @jimcallisBA#Rays sign 5th-rder Bralin Jackson for $325k. (pick value=$216k). Missouri HS OF has impressive bat speed & plenty of tools. #mlbdraft
Any info on #10 Sean Bierman? Is he healthy after TJ surgery?
He started 15 games in 2012, so seems like he's completely back.
Are all 5 starters for HV coming from Princeton?
Kendall seems like a lock. Guerrieri will be another. Won't know the rest until rosters and games begin to see who starts.
When can the rosters be published for HV and Princeton? The players should be at their assigned fields by now.
NY guys probably are, WV guys haven't left yet.
DePew is in HV, as are Bierman, Gantt, Redman, Dixon, Gabray and a bunch of Princeton pitchers from last year.
BA has the Rays' total money spent towards their bonus pool so far as $480,700. Subtract the $325,000 for Jackson, $133,200 for Maile, $17,500 for Gantt, and you are left with $5,000, which is likely Beierman's bonus.Also, BA has Clayton Henning's name in bold, indicating that he has signed.Link: http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/2012xteam.php?team=1020
That's the math I've been doing on Bierman too, since the first 3 picks were up on Monday. Since it has stayed the same through all the signings today I'm going to put it in for him. Good work figuring it out though, thought I was the only one trying to do it that way!
Second high school pick to sign:Jim Callis @jimcallisBA#Rays agree w/6th-rder Damion Carroll for $190k (pick value=$162k). Virginia HS RHP touches 95, draws Lee Smith comps. #mlbdraft
I love all the signings but lets get those early picks signed please. Earliest so far is 5th round, sign them in time to start the Hudson Valley/Princeton season!By the way, Shaffer is my fav pick but I think 6th rounder, Carroll is a close 2nd, I see a very bright future from him.
More on Carroll: http://blogs.fredericksburg.com/sports/2012/06/13/carroll-rays-agree-to-terms/Former King George High School baseball standout Damion Carroll has agreed to contract terms with the Tampa Bay Rays pending the result of a physical, according to a source with knowledge of the negotiations.Carroll, a 6-foot-3, right-handed pitcher, is flying to Tampa, Fla. Wednesday. He’s set to take a physical Thursday. If all goes well, Carroll is expected to sign a seven-year deal with a $190,000 signing bonus on Saturday at King George’s graduation ceremony, the source said.
More signings:Jonathan Gantt @Jonathan_GanttRays signed 3 more draft picks--RHP Nolan Gannon (4th rd), OF Bralin Jackson (5th rd) and OF Clayton Henning (11th rd). 24 of 40 now signed.
Wow, we are moving quickly with these signings. Still need the top 3 of course but I love the pace this year
FLASH!!! Tampa Bay has RESIGNED OF CHRIS MURRILL, after releasing him the day before Spring Training ended. He will report to Port Charlotte Friday.
I hear a lot about newly drafted college pitchers being, "shut down," because they threw too many pitches the previous college season. How many pitches is that? How long are they usually shut down for? Is that why high school pitchers are usually the starters in HV? Also- Is there a way to find out how many innings college pitchers have pitched before coming to HV?
College coaches are often accused of 'abusing' pitchers with high pitch counts. Truth is some do and most don't. But pro teams don't want to add too many innings on top of what they pitched this spring. So they either pitch in relief, as piggyback starters, or not at all. The old signing deadline of August 15th meant it wasn't worth having a guy come back to pitch for 2 weeks at the end of the season if they signed late. We'll have to see how they handle it this year with the signing deadline a month earlier, might be worth doing for 6 weeks of action.High school pitchers don't start for HV the year they are drafted, they move up from the year before at Princeton and GCL. You can usually find innings pitched at the players college page, and if you look at individual box scores they mostly have pitch counts any more.
Haven't heard anything about Murrill. Rays did sign another NDFA catcher for Hudson Valley: Patrick Reardon, a 2010 graduate of Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (RPI). Career average of .386, 22 HR, 155 RBI, named 2009 Liberty League Player of the Year. I added him to the depth chart for HV but don't know an age yet. I also didn't think we needed another article about a NDFA :). He's been working for a baseball academy in Halfmoon, NY, and you can see his stats at RPI.
Murrill posted it on facebook today.
Really, that a surprise - that he's back I mean. Good for him then. Seen guys quit and then come back, but not be released and return. Must have left on good terms.
Good lesson to the kids out there that this is why you don't call the coach a c**ksucker on the way out.
It really doesn't make sense to bring him back I'm mean the outfield is packed where exactly are the going to put him? I mean u sign new outfielders when they already have plenty plus how old is he?
Anonymous 10:57- I don't know if you've ever seen Chris Murrill play, but he is really fast and has a good bat. Any of us who watched him play, were stunned that he was released in the first place. Good Luck Chris!
Really interested in going to a GCL Rays game to see some guys that were drafted this year, and some of the young guys that will start off there who were drafted this year. How can I get into a GCL game though? Not really sure how it works since there's no GCL site or anything, just the rosters. Thanks.
There are a few people who post/comment here that go to the GCL games. Maybe one of them can give more details. They've described it all before but I can't find it to repost for you. I think the games are free at Port Charlotte, but played early in the day, and only a few people show up. Can anyone give him some more details?
GCL games are played daily, with the exception of Sundays. They are usually day games, played after morning workouts. There are a couple of night games, at least there were last season. The games are played on the lower fields usually, and are free to the public.
Oh, alright. Thanks for the help guys.
More on 6th Carroll from here:Carroll flew to Tampa, Fla., Wednesday after he agreed to a seven-year contract with the Rays. The deal features a $190,000 signing bonus and a four-year college scholarship, according to a source with knowledge of the negotiations.Carroll has to take a physical examination today in Tampa, and he’s expected to officially sign his contract on Saturday at King George’s graduation....When Carroll signs the contract, he’ll turn down an opportunity to play for San Jacinto Community College in Texas.Carroll couldn’t be reached for comment Wednesday. His mother said she expects him to adjust well to life as a professional on the field, but added that her son has yet to experience life away from home. He boarded an airplane alone for the first time on Wednesday.“I think he’ll do very well as far as baseball,” Holmes said. “As far as being away from home, he’s never experienced that before. But he’s very excited.”Carroll is expected to begin his career with one of the Rays’ rookie league affiliate teams, but likely will not pitch this year, according to the source.
Does the college scholarship not count against the signing bonus pool and how many of these HS kids have a scholarship included when they sign? Also, why does it continue to say he agreed to a seven year contract? I always thought you got your signing bonus and then you played for the standard minor league amount, except in the rare occasions where the top college guys sign MLB deals. If they sign players to different contract amounts, this could easily be a way to circumvent the signing bonus slot value.
Minor league players become free agents after six years of service time, provided they are not added to a 40-man roster. The year they are drafted does not count as a full season, so their draft year + the following six years means they are under team control for basically seven years, hence a "seven-year contract."
They all sign the same contract, and there are no more MLB deals for anyone, even #1 overall picks. Only thing that changes are the signing bonus amounts.Part of the problem is local reporters who try to describe the signings. I've seen several times where they announce that a player will be joining THE Rays (since they are headed to FL after signing) on a seven-year contract. They have no concept of the minors or how far away these kids are from the majors. And they never mention the minor league salaries, only the big bonus amounts, sometimes implying they will make the bonus amount every year for 7 years like a salary. If only...
For those of you wondering about rosters coming out and players heading out to teams, here is a look at Princeton from here: http://bdtonline.com/localsports/x1901562238/Rays-ing-baseballThe countdown for the arrival of the players is underway, but there will not be a big uniform arrival this season.“The team arrives on Friday at various times of the day,” Holland said. “Players are allowed to drive now, if they have vehicles, to come up here, but they must have a buddy with them to drive and they are required to stay overnight. They will be leaving Port Charlotte (Fla.) on Thursday morning after the workout, arriving in Princeton at various times Friday.“Our fliers will be landing in Charleston at 3:00, Friday, then they will be bused to Princeton. We will have workouts right now scheduled from 6-8:30 p.m. on Saturday, Sunday and Monday, to be followed by six home games. It’s a busy, long time for us.”
Another NDFA signed, LHP Brett Blaise out of Belhaven University in Jackson, Mississippi: Belhaven senior Brett Blaise will get an opportunity to play professional baseball after inking a free agent contract with the Tampa Bay Rays. Blaise, a left handed pitcher from Columbus, MS, spent two seasons as a Blazer after pitching for two years at Pearl River Community College. Blaise has been assigned to the Rays Rookie Ball Club in the Gulf Coast League located in Port Charlotte, FL.Blaise posted a record of 4-4 in 2012 and made 15 starts which ended up being the third most starts in a single season in school history. Blaise logged 68 innings in those 15 starts and registered 48 strikeouts with one complete game. He held opposing hitters to a .222 batting average. During his two year career at Belhaven, Blaise notched a 12-5 record with 112 strikeouts in 136 innings and owns a 3.97 ERA. Over that span, Blaise made 29 starts and leaves with a .706 winning percentage.Link: http://blazers.belhaven.edu/news/2012/6/11/BB_0611120424.aspx?path=baseballHe's listed at 6'5", 195, no date of birth so I'll update when roster come out.
Matt Eddy's transactions update at BA says SS Joel Barroso has been released. He never played after signing in the offseason. Doesn't really fit here but not worth a post of its own.
Renegades roster has been posted, but I can't read it on my phone... @JournalSean on twitter
Sure would be nice to get those top 3 signed but with only 11 unsigned, I am starting to wonder if really are going to sign all our picks.
They won't all sign, never have, but it will be the highest % ever. Nacapoy makes 30, sent to Princeton.
27th round RHP Alex Keudell makes 31. Not sure where he's headed yet.
Rays confirm 3rd rounder Andrew Toles has signed. No bonus info or affiliate announced yet.
Couple of notes for Friday:2nd rounder Spencer Edwards flew to Tampa yesterday. Assuming all goes well he should be signed soon. Don't know how soon it will be official.6th Damion Carroll has been assigned to the GCL. If you see the note above it doesn't sound like he was expected to pitch any this year. So we'll have to see if this is just a paper move or if he'll play. There is plenty of room on these short-season rosters so they can carry guys that aren't even with the team with no problem.The only other picks who have signed and haven't been assigned to a roster yet are 3rd Andrew Toles and 27th Alex Keudell.
Baseball America has updated their draft database with the Andrew Toles signing. I can't see his signing bonus, but they have the total pool spending at $1,264,900, up from the $868,200 before the Toles signing, so he probably signed for his slot value of $396,700.
Yep, saw that on Callis' twitter and updated it. Thanks though. Looks like $ won't be a problem for signing the top 2 at least.
And it is possible that Shaffer and Edwards will each sign for slot as well, leaving plenty of money to sign some guys after round 10 to over-slot bonuses.Right now my draft wish list is:1. Richie Shaffer2. Spencer Edwards (Texas commit)3. Brett McAfee (Arkansas)4. Chris Kirsch (VCU commit)5. Taylor Hawkins (Oklahoma commit)6. Joey Rickard7. Taylor Ward (Fresno State)8. Keaton Steele (Missouri)
Edwards tweeted photos he took at the Trop earlier today.
Edwards signs today (6/23) per his twitter: http://twitter.com/spenceredwards3
And Edwards makes 33.
BA says Edwards signed for slot.
#35 Kris Carlson moved to Hudson Valley today. Did Craige Lyerly move also, or is he just filling a HV roster spot?Question- Does the Tampa Bay organization still make up the lineups for the short season teams, or has that changed?
Lyerly was just a paper move he is still in Florida! Doesn't make much sense
After winning the College World Series with Arizona, 9th Rickard had this on his plans:Rickard has a decision to make on his future after being drafted by the Tampa Bay Rays in the ninth round June 5. He has until July 13 to decide whether to sign a professional deal or return to college, but Rickard said he's leaning toward going pro."I've been talking to them," he said of the Rays. "We finally got together today. Anything could happen, but I'm leaning to going professional."Link: http://www.lvrj.com/sports/gorman-products-continue-winning-160494865.html
Strong Rumor that Rickard has signed and is headed to Hudson Valley next week.
Saw this and didn't know if it was already posted......while Taylor Hawkins of Carl Albert (Midwest City, Okla.), who was drafted by the Tampa Bay Rays, will instead play for perennial baseball power Oklahoma.http://www.usatodayhss.com/news/article/Tampa-Jesuit's-Lance-McCullers-Jr.-leads-All-USA-baseball-team
Look's like He has changed his mind. Big surprise to get this one signed. http://t.co/YMNTE9da
Schafer twitted that he is close to signing.Man oh man, we can't get this McAfee dude signed can we? Watch us sign all the picks except him.
Any update on Shaffer signing? 35 of 40 guys signing is unbelievable!
He said on twitter "he is very, very close with the Rays" Probably signing during the all star break
Where on twitter is this posted? I looked on shaffers account and there is no tweet about it...
Is Shaffer going to sign? I would think he would have by now.
HV Catcher Pat Reardon IV released last night. Making room for Shaffer?
GCL Catcher promoted to Hudson Valley today-Geoffrey Rowan. HV's, once again, OVERLOADED with catchers. So, now, who's gonna go to make room for Shaffer?
Marc Topkin @TBTimes_RaysHearing #Rays very close to a deal with No. 1 draft pick Richie ShafferSo now we will wind up with just 4 unsigned and this is at least the 2nd time we couldn't sign McAfee.
Kendall Rogers tweets that Shaffer's deal will be in the $1.7 range. Just about slot if so.
Third time kirsch won't sign with a team he better hope he has a kick ass 2 years of major college ball.
Draysbay said Shaffer has signed.
Waiting for something official on Shaffer. Want to make sure he passes physical, little different than some $1,000 guy in the 38th round. Other than that it's guaranteed he'll sign, has been since he was picked, he's not going back to Clemson for sr year.
Alright, Rays, you can not sign McAfee, time to stop drafting him.
A very nice surprise we signed Chris Kirsch,the projectable LHP!
Why would we stop drafting him? We draft Ryan Carpenter three times and he finally signed.
Kirsch is headed to Princeton. I think Elliot Johnson's brother has the record for most times drafted by Rays without ever signing.