Sunday, December 12, 2010

Combined Top 30 Lists With Notes

Here are our top 30s re-printed in one post, followed by a combined list. I simply awarded 30 points for 1st place, 29 for 2nd place, etc. So Jeremy Hellickson, who all three of us had #1, received 30 points three times for a total of 90.

Rank Doug Milhoan        Rank Jake Larsen         Rank Kevin Gengler
1 Jeremy Hellickson 1 Jeremy Hellickson 1 Jeremy Hellickson
2 Matt Moore 2 Desmond Jennings 2 Matt Moore
3 Desmond Jennings 3 Matt Moore 3 Desmond Jennings
4 Alex Cobb 4 Joseph Cruz 4 Alex Torres
5 Jake McGee 5 Josh Sale 5 Alex Cobb
6 Alex Colome 6 Alex Cobb 6 Alex Colome
7 Alex Torres 7 Alex Torres 7 Jake McGee
8 Jake Thompson 8 Nick Barnese 8 Josh Sale
9 Joseph Cruz 9 Alex Colome 9 Joseph Cruz
10 Drew Vettleson 10 Jake Thompson 10 Nick Barnese

11 Josh Sale 11 Wilking Rodriguez 11 Jake Thompson
12 Nick Barnese 12 Jake McGee 12 Wilking Rodriguez
13 Tyler Bortnick 13 Enny Romero 13 Justin O'Conner
14 Enny Romero 14 Ryan Brett 14 Luke Bailey
15 Wilking Rodriguez 15 Drew Vettleson 15 Drew Vettleson
16 Justin O'Conner 16 Derek Dietrich 16 Tim Beckham
17 Albert Suarez 17 Yoel Araujo 17 Ty Morrison
18 Scott Shuman 18 Hector Guevara 18 Derek Dietrich
19 Luke Bailey 19 Tim Beckham 19 Enny Romero
20 Tim Beckham 20 Justin O'Conner 20 Ryan Brett

21 Kyle Lobstein 21 Luke Bailey 21 Scott Shuman
22 Stephen Vogt 22 Jake DePew 22 Hector Guevara
23 Shane Dyer 23 Jeff Malm 23 Todd Glaesmann
24 Wilmer Almonte 24 Scott Shuman 24 Tyler Bortnick
25 Ryan Brett 25 Todd Glaesmann 25 Albert Suarez
26 Aneury Rodriguez* 26 Tyler Bortnick 26 Jesse Hahn
27 Zach Quate 27 Cesar Perez 27 Kyle Lobstein
28 Todd Glaesmann 28 Jesse Hahn 28 Zach Quate
29 Ty Morrison 29 Zach Quate 29 Cesar Perez
30 Derek Dietrich 30 Ty Morrison 30 Braulio Lara
*Selected by Houston Astros in Rule 5 Draft
And the combined list (the numbers under the DM, JL, and KG columns are the ranking we gave them individually, not the points):
Rank Player             Pts   DM  JL  KG    
1 Jeremy Hellickson 90 1 1 1
2 Matt Moore 86 2 3 2
3 Desmond Jennings 85 3 2 3
4 Alex Cobb 78 4 6 5
5 Alex Torres 75 7 7 4
6 Alex Colome 72 6 9 6
7 Joseph Cruz 71 9 4 9
T-8 Josh Sale 69 11 5 8
T-8 Jake McGee 69 5 12 7
10 Jake Thompson 64 8 10 11

11 Nick Barnese 63 12 8 10
12 Wilking Rodriguez 55 15 11 12
13 Drew Vettleson 53 10 15 15
14 Enny Romero 47 14 13 19
15 Justin O'Conner 44 16 20 13
16 Luke Bailey 39 19 21 14
17 Tim Beckham 38 20 19 16
18 Ryan Brett 34 25 14 20
T-19 Tyler Bortnick 30 13 26 24
T-19 Scott Shuman 30 18 24 21

21 Derek Dietrich 29 30 16 18
22 Hector Guevara 21 -- 18 22
23 Albert Suarez 20 17 -- 25
T-24 Ty Morrison 17 29 30 17
T-24 Todd Glaesmann 17 28 25 23
T-26 Kyle Lobstein 14 21 -- 27
T-26 Yoel Araujo 14 -- 17 --
T-28 Zach Quate 9 27 29 28
T-28 Stephen Vogt 9 22 -- --
T-28 Jake Depew 9 -- 22 --

T-31 Shane Dyer 8 23 -- --
T-31 Jeff Malm 8 -- 23 --
T-31 Jesse Hahn 8 -- 28 26
34 Wilmer Almonte 7 24 -- --
35 Cesar Perez 6 -- 27 29
36 Aneury Rodriguez* 5 26 -- --
37 Braulio Lara 1 -- -- 30
*Selected by Houston Astros in Rule 5 Draft
Notes:
1. Between, the three of us, 37 total players were ranked. Last season, with an extra ranker (Andy Leslie), 41 total players were ranked.

2. In all, 24 players were ranked in the top 30 by all three of us. 5 players were ranked by two of us, and 8 players were listed on just one ballot.

3. All three of us had 9 of the combined top 10 in our personal top 10 lists. Doug had Drew Vettleson in his top 10, while Jake and I both had Nick Barnese in our top 10s.

4. Of players who were ranked by all three of us, Derek Dietrich had the widest range. He was as high as 16 on Jake's list and as low as 30 on Doug's.

5. The top 10 contains 8 pitchers and 2 hitters. 11-20 has 4 pitchers and 6 hitters. 21-30 features 3 pitchers and 7 hitters. 31-37 has 5 pitchers and 2 hitters. So in total, the top 37 has 20 pitchers and 17 hitters, but the talent up top is clearly in the pitching.

3 comments:

  1. Kevin, Make a mental note, don't be the first to post your top 30 list next year.

    Just kidding, anytime someone makes a rating list there will always be some disagreement but I was really surprised at some of the negative reaction.

    You folks do a terrific job and I look forward to reading this site daily.

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  2. I absolutely agree. Thanks for all the work keeping us informed. I think there is an emotional attachment to some of the players. Staistics tell the story. Thanks Again

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  3. Ha ha, diamondtom with great advice, as always. Thanks to both of you on behalf of RP.

    I could see arguments for any of the 7 who finished 31-37 in the combined list. Here's hoping hitters from the past 2 drafts make progress this year so our lists next year aren't so pitcher-heavy.

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