tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7235991369814171983.post4908612860786341397..comments2024-03-28T03:28:47.189-04:00Comments on RaysProspects.com: Top 30 Prospect List: BurgiDoughttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08409653861481579576noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7235991369814171983.post-28553941558440672182012-06-20T04:45:21.783-04:002012-06-20T04:45:21.783-04:00Thank you very much.Thank you very much.BurGihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12985140652976473929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7235991369814171983.post-46409162203093831782012-06-19T21:24:59.805-04:002012-06-19T21:24:59.805-04:00I commend you on the work that you put into this l...I commend you on the work that you put into this list. I enjoyed it. If anyone was perfect on this stuff, they would be rich. Great work.Beansnaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07666871504043230848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7235991369814171983.post-62919450493220722102012-06-19T07:02:58.647-04:002012-06-19T07:02:58.647-04:00No, Michael. The Scouting Report in the Penn Leagu...No, Michael. The Scouting Report in the Penn League Report is the last one I have of him as well, but by far the most incouraging one. Other news about him - since then - have only focused at his stats and not on his stuff. Future reports who suggested slightly weaker stuff than in the PennLeagueReport have held me back from being to euphoric about him in the "talent" criterion. Maybe IBurGihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12985140652976473929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7235991369814171983.post-7775269211046186712012-06-18T18:44:06.631-04:002012-06-18T18:44:06.631-04:00Great first inning for Ames in HV, BTW.
2K'sGreat first inning for Ames in HV, BTW.<br /><br />2K'sCarl Gonzaleznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7235991369814171983.post-64466402877120155682012-06-18T16:12:27.151-04:002012-06-18T16:12:27.151-04:00BurGi, do you have updated reports on McEachern? H...BurGi, do you have updated reports on McEachern? Here is a scouting report from last year at pennleaguereport.com:<br /><br /><br />"He's a three-quarter guy with deception in his delivery. His fastball lacks sink or a ton of movement, but he hides the ball well and sits in the 93-94 range. He was throwing mostly strikes, and mostly fastballs for that matter, but was mixing in a Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14269534252986753797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7235991369814171983.post-72453530992113018922012-06-18T13:59:36.985-04:002012-06-18T13:59:36.985-04:00Jason has similar stuff as Jake P from the other s...Jason has similar stuff as Jake P from the other side and he is finally putting it together this year...should be much higher than 100th. He is throwing strikes and getting his breaking stuff over. He is dominating in BG. I believe if you flip the Charlotte staff for the second half with the BG staff Charlotte wins the second half. Leave the closers for each team where they are...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7235991369814171983.post-15406134951024735112012-06-18T13:52:06.062-04:002012-06-18T13:52:06.062-04:00Vogt is 46th | Wrigley 56th
Overall grade: 5.352 |...Vogt is 46th | Wrigley 56th<br />Overall grade: 5.352 | 5.214 (very close!)<br />Stats: 6.17 | 6.7<br />Talent: 4 | 4<br />Level of play: 10 (AAA/MLB) | 8 (AA/AAA)<br />Relative Age: 5.41 | 4.93<br /><br />Araujo: I've him born in '92. Fangraphs also has '92.BurGihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12985140652976473929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7235991369814171983.post-45530911727498125212012-06-18T13:45:33.624-04:002012-06-18T13:45:33.624-04:00One more: Vogt vs Wrigley? And what age are you us...One more: Vogt vs Wrigley? And what age are you using for Yoel Araujo? I've always had 12/3/93, the Rays press guide has that, but milb.com has 12/3/92. I noticed on Saturday when I was doing the GCL roster. Not that he's doing well, but a year makes a difference at that level.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08409653861481579576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7235991369814171983.post-61027897651397058342012-06-18T13:39:32.429-04:002012-06-18T13:39:32.429-04:00I've McEachern as 100th on the list. I see Par...I've McEachern as 100th on the list. I see Partridge to succeed with a higher probability than Jason due to (correct me if I'm wrong) slightly better stuff.<br /><br />Partridge also has a better FIP over the last 3 seasons and is younger.BurGihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12985140652976473929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7235991369814171983.post-75028940101868865212012-06-18T13:37:39.445-04:002012-06-18T13:37:39.445-04:00That's totally right and probably the main rea...That's totally right and probably the main reason why I tried to leave it out. I try to - kind of - make a list which bases on facts and scouting/development reports. Maybe to find a way of putting the different factors of a "prospect" (tools, skills, uncertainty, position, defense, ...) together.BurGihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12985140652976473929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7235991369814171983.post-42849282541621315392012-06-18T13:37:06.236-04:002012-06-18T13:37:06.236-04:00Where was McEachern compared to Partridge? I focus...Where was McEachern compared to Partridge? I focus on H/9, probably too much, but he's been great. Walk rate is high, but K rate is higher than Partridge and they've each only allowed 1 HR (more innings for Partridge).Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08409653861481579576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7235991369814171983.post-49341604829294079152012-06-18T13:35:07.671-04:002012-06-18T13:35:07.671-04:00Thank you.
Maybe I've had my hopes for Mahtoo...Thank you.<br /><br />Maybe I've had my hopes for Mahtook up too much. I give him all the time of the world and my grade for talent shows that I believe in him.BurGihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12985140652976473929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7235991369814171983.post-89071880592118122372012-06-18T13:33:56.595-04:002012-06-18T13:33:56.595-04:00I was very surprised as well. The 1 point I have h...I was very surprised as well. The 1 point I have him higher on the talent-scale makes the difference. I can be very wrong, but Lueke could potentially become a back-end of the pen-guy.BurGihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12985140652976473929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7235991369814171983.post-19835012384829585662012-06-18T13:32:02.604-04:002012-06-18T13:32:02.604-04:00Because I copied it, sorry:
Partridge: 4.506 over...Because I copied it, sorry:<br /><br />Partridge: 4.506 overall, relative age: 5.82 (all the others are correct)BurGihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12985140652976473929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7235991369814171983.post-17348821166422533482012-06-18T13:30:54.072-04:002012-06-18T13:30:54.072-04:00I was very surprised as well (about Sale AND Lueke...I was very surprised as well (about Sale AND Lueke).<br /><br />Didn't expect to see e.g. Eierman, Goetzman and also Floethe so low. There is lots and lots of talent outside the top 30 (especially those in Bowling Green and below): Just look at those names: Faria, Alexander, Floethe, Bellatti, Spann, Hahn, Ames, Harris Jr., ...)BurGihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12985140652976473929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7235991369814171983.post-32019813170050569322012-06-18T13:27:47.615-04:002012-06-18T13:27:47.615-04:00Thanks for the explanation. Why is one 51st and ot...Thanks for the explanation. Why is one 51st and other 81st with same overall?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7235991369814171983.post-83410687079799861772012-06-18T13:25:47.740-04:002012-06-18T13:25:47.740-04:00Suarez being healthy is not the criterion. I just ...Suarez being healthy is not the criterion. I just pointed it out. <br /><br />You have to look at the following:<br />Suarez has an overall grade of 5.667, Floethe of 5.250. That's not much of a difference. The list is very, very volatile but I have to do it somehow. The Rays like Suarez' ceiling and I trust them on this. Maybe I'm putting too much stock in past scouting reports, but BurGihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12985140652976473929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7235991369814171983.post-27151043677323338612012-06-18T13:20:20.373-04:002012-06-18T13:20:20.373-04:00Here they are (and I agree with you, that all 3 of...Here they are (and I agree with you, that all 3 of them - especially Floethe and Partridge looked excellent in Bowling Green):<br /><br />Floethe (51st overall):<br />stats: 8.84 <br />talent: 4.5 (good #4 starter ceiling with some uncertainty, same as Bellatti, Barnese, Garvin) <br />level of play: 3.0 <br />relative age: 2.69 <br />overall: 5.250<br /><br />Patridge (81st overall):<br />stats: BurGihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12985140652976473929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7235991369814171983.post-51984900127956267702012-06-18T13:19:07.028-04:002012-06-18T13:19:07.028-04:00Look at innings in each arm and Floethe is a relat...Look at innings in each arm and Floethe is a relative baby! I don't mean to put Carpenter down he just gets squared up big time when he misses his spot. Batting average is still up there...Floethe's has been low all year...the Hot Rods probably love playing behind these starters, they all throw strikes. I have to say Carpenter's control is amazing for a big lefty. If he ever gets the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7235991369814171983.post-61694873071758074952012-06-18T13:13:37.920-04:002012-06-18T13:13:37.920-04:00Wrigley is 56nd overall. He was one of the main re...Wrigley is 56nd overall. He was one of the main reasons why I wanted to rate more objectively. Here are his numbers:<br /><br />stats according to wOBA: 6.7 <br />talent: 4 (good bench bat ceiling, some uncertainty ... same grade as e.g.: Vogt, Figueroa) <br />level of play: 8 (= AA/AAA) <br />relative age: 4.93 <br />overall grade: 5.214BurGihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12985140652976473929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7235991369814171983.post-7537630913562512102012-06-18T12:44:30.761-04:002012-06-18T12:44:30.761-04:00Well BurGi, you were right, I wasn't expecting...Well BurGi, you were right, I wasn't expecting Sale! Always like the way you do the lists though, takes the 'who you like' factor out of it, which I'm guilty of. <br /><br />Kind of surprised to Lueke, thought age would kill him, and he's soooo close to ineligible, 28 MLB relief appearances. Didn't expect Linsky either.<br /><br />Glad Wilking and Suarez made it, still Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08409653861481579576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7235991369814171983.post-58715197919502215962012-06-18T12:39:09.008-04:002012-06-18T12:39:09.008-04:00So which players have been "successful everyw...So which players have been "successful everywhere"? Cause I need to move them up my list. <br /><br />Agree with you on Floethe, has done very well. But he's older than 4 of the starters a level higher at Charlotte, and 2 of the starters up in Montgomery. If you're gonna ding Carpenter for taking advantage of younger hitters, you need to do the same with Floethe. <br /><br />Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08409653861481579576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7235991369814171983.post-75109524763451898822012-06-18T12:21:15.161-04:002012-06-18T12:21:15.161-04:00Some of these guys on the list Suarez no. 30 becau...Some of these guys on the list Suarez no. 30 because he is finally healthy...please! Good criteria! Potential means squat production is the key...when someone is successful everywhere he goes must mean something!!! When is Lenny going to pitch? Carpenter, why so much love! His velo is still below average but has pitchability against young hitters. I am not sure he will be successful higher up! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7235991369814171983.post-6276031079703079422012-06-18T11:48:01.015-04:002012-06-18T11:48:01.015-04:00Give me a break! You left off Flothe, Gomez and Pa...Give me a break! You left off Flothe, Gomez and Partridge! Flothe is in top 5 in all catagories except K's, 1.04 whip...Gomez has been best pitcher for over a month at BG and Partridge has not had a bad outing!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7235991369814171983.post-25316801019704005512012-06-18T10:46:36.905-04:002012-06-18T10:46:36.905-04:00As usual ....not including the organizations leade...As usual ....not including the organizations leader in Home Runs and RBI's.....playing at the top minor leaguer level....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com